A couple of these feature in the Stove Reference Gallery and I'm supposing it's from the thirties when the company's production of stoves, lanterns and other household goods was rapidly becoming a side-line to armaments manufacture Chrome rather than nickel plating on steel and it's lasted surprisingly well with just a few surface blemishes and no terminal rot. A pressure release valve on a petrol stove seems like a recipe for disaster, but more of that later Comparison with a Svea 123 Unlike the Svea, the riser stem to tank joint isn't a tapered screw but relies on a heat-proof washer The original washer had lost its sealing capabilities, being rock hard. I thought about using a lead washer but although I didn't expect it would reach a temperature at which it would melt, I wanted the resilience, or 'spring' of a fibre washer to make an effective seal. The wick had to be replaced A forked steel strip forms the wick core Burner riser has no restrictions in the bore, no pilot hole to feed the burner as on a Svea 123 Ready to go once the jet nipple's screwed back in place - 0.32mm jet orifice Works well, but with no regulator, how to shut it down? MORE TO FOLLOW John
You'll have guessed, the flame has to be blown out as with a Primus 70 or Lamb petrol stove - demonstration to follow. First, I set out on a hike with the Hasag in my pack. A cold day, the sun sometimes making an appearance ... ... but mostly not, with a heavy hail shower whiting out the landscape I took shelter behind a field boundary wall and set the stove up for a brew Priming with the fuel in the tank (Aspen 4T) Flame soon blued up and got the kettle boiling in no time Blowing out the flame I reckon the pressure release is intended to be used after the flame's been blown out. Releasing the pressure (and petrol vapour) with the burner still lit could certainly be, er, exciting ... A detail on Motoshi Makino's Vulcan in the Stove Reference Gallery was lacking on mine and that's a Hasag tranfer (decal). I copied and pasted the decal from one of Motoshi's photos into rudimentary photo manipulation software ... ... and printed a cropped version, reduced slightly in scale to match actual size, on laser printer waterslide transfer paper Suitably trimmed, that's what went on the stove John
Another good job John, thanks. Little known historical fact -- the release valve on this petrol stove has been documented as leading to the origin and meaning of the term "screwed up".
It's become a favourite certainly and taking it out when the temperature had dropped, it was evidently much quicker and easier to get going than a Svea 123 or Primus 71 would be in cold conditions and it's certainly a lively performer
Presscall said, Link "Ok, it's a stove so something mundane and not nazi regalia, but I for one wouldn't care to own anything with that hateful, disgusting regime's stamp on it. CCS member Teletim gave us a poignant image of another stove from that era when he visited Oświęcim in Poland, known to the nazis (and now notorious to us all) as Auschwitz" and again here from the same thread : "That's too bad, Ian. Sorry I couldn't go along with the 'what a cracking stove, cracking piece of history' theme. Associations with a toxic regime, then as now, are inescapable - unless someone 'doesn't give a rat's arse' of course. John" As this stove was purchased from the former Eastern Block, there is a possibility it was made in Hasag's concentration Czestochowa foundry in Poland. Hasag was the third largest killing machine within the " toxic regime " The Holocaust Education Programme
Man up Ian and as I've suggested before get this recurring anger concerning me off your chest in a PT to me and not in a public forum eh? John
It highly important to remember the history and the atrocities that were committed at that time and resepect those victims. Also its imperative that we make sure it can never happen again and to that aim ensure no organisation based on any form of hate ever gets a significant level of power ever again. However we are interested in collecting things not ideas and any meaning of that thing is only in its history not its present. To collect miltary or political memorabilia from that era might be bad taste but ordinary industrial items do not carry that stigma. Thats my view on this anyway and if others have a different view for whatever reason then I see that under my paragraph one there is no reason for them not to have that view and as such that view must be respected. Most of us know very little about each other and in stove collecting there is no need to know more and because we dont know we have to accept each others views which could be that way for many reasons
Hello Gents, I wonder if owning a Volkswagen Beetle would elicit the same sort of rant. It's a stove, nothing more. If it was made in a Nazi Death-camp, that is sad, but it cannot be changed. My Grandads went to war to stop those butchers, but it is impossible to erase every trace of their existence. Better to remember what was done, and to ensure it never happens again. I notice that the angry gent also owns a couple of Russian stoves. These are representative of a regime legendary for its repression of freedom and humanity. Stalin's leadership saw staggering numbers of his own countrymen "vanished" without trace due to his paranoia. Would he likewise discard his Russian stoves? I think not. We are, for the most part, a peaceful enclave of multinational interdenominational souls, we don't need any haters in here. As suggested by the OP, take it private, the grown-up thing to do. No disrespect intended, as you're both gentlemen worthy of respect. Please afford each other some, at least publicly. It is fine to voice an opinion, but the hate-speak is a forum killer. I cherish this place because there is so little of it present here. Just my tuppence ha'penny. Warm regards to you both. Mike.
speech is silver and silence is gold... As we see (upper) - WWII was not ended - in our minds and emotions. Every One of Us has his own history and level of knowlege, and "point of sittig " wich determinated "point of view". If We are not speaking - this dont mean - We are not remember, dont know, accept historical process. Let's do - what we have to do. ------------- This problem is wider then "holocaust" - and exceeds theme of this TOPIC.
@Tzvetomir Tzvetkov Warming the fuel tank in the hands results in fuel dribbling out of the jet, down the burner stem and into the fuel priming cup/dimple formed in the stove tank. When that’s nearly full, it’s ignited and that results in the fuel self-pressurising to maintain combustion. Priming in this photo. John
Thank you for your answer. Are you sure it is used with gasoline and not lamp oil? Mine is not in a very good condition. Do you know someone who has one for spare parts or one for sale? Kind Regards Tzvet
It won’t function with lamp oil (paraffin) because it needs the volatility of naptha (pump gasoline is a poor choice) to self-pressurise. I’m sorry, but I don’t know of a source for spares or know of another example. What needs servicing or replacing?
@Tzvetomir Tzvetkov It’s gasoline with no additives. Known as ‘white’ gasoline in some countries, proprietary brands Coleman fuel, Aspen.
@Tzvetomir Tzvetkov If using Aspen fuel then it needs to be ‘Aspen 4’ and not ‘Aspen 2’ (as Aspen 2 contains pre-mixed oil for 2-stroke engine applications). Pharael.
